Mike Augello: Leafs Top 40 Prospects - #33

Marner sucks.

He shot a puck over the glass..

Marner sucks.

He shot a puck over the glass..


- Arctic_AARDVARK

Do not deliberately fire people up.

That’s just nothing more than a poopty thing to do and it’s not remotely funny.

Do not deliberately fire people up.

That’s just nothing more than a poopty thing to do and it’s not remotely funny.
- Dozzer

To be fair, he is continuing the conversation from the last thread, that even if he didn't would start up again anyway.

Everyone is understandably disappointed in the Leafs lack of progress. For the first time since the 1970s we have some _real_ drafted talent and a good young core. You couple that with the impatience of the base and throw in the mix that half of them feel that Matthews is leaving in a couple of years and there's frustration, anger and frail hope. It makes for poor behaviour at times.

The funny thing about it is that for the most part (ignoring those who come in to talk hockey like Drunken Canuck or Scabs or RJ) we all just want the Leafs to win.

It just seems that no one can agree on how!

To be fair, he is continuing the conversation from the last thread, that even if he didn't would start up again anyway.

Everyone is understandably disappointed in the Leafs lack of progress. For the first time since the 1970s we have some _real_ drafted talent and a good young core. You couple that with the impatience of the base and throw in the mix that half of them feel that Matthews is leaving in a couple of years and there's frustration, anger and frail hope. It makes for poor behaviour at times.

The funny thing about it is that for the most part (ignoring those who come in to talk hockey like Drunken Canuck or Scabs or RJ) we all just want the Leafs to win.

It just seems that no one can agree on how!
- Monkeypunk

I believe that discussion made it to that point without a single reference to Marner putting a puck over the glass actually... Which was a nice twist. 🤷🏻‍♂️

To be fair, he is continuing the conversation from the last thread, that even if he didn't would start up again anyway.

Everyone is understandably disappointed in the Leafs lack of progress. For the first time since the 1970s we have some _real_ drafted talent and a good young core. You couple that with the impatience of the base and throw in the mix that half of them feel that Matthews is leaving in a couple of years and there's frustration, anger and frail hope. It makes for poor behaviour at times.

The funny thing about it is that for the most part (ignoring those who come in to talk hockey like Drunken Canuck or Scabs or RJ) we all just want the Leafs to win.

It just seems that no one can agree on how!
- Monkeypunk

Oh I’m aware that it’s a continued convo and that’s fair. However I know he’s a Marner fan as well so him posting that the way he did was nothing more than mocking those with a different opinion.

And I cannot continue to let that slide. However since I didn’t get online yesterday I’m primarily going to make sure I put out warnings before banning someone.

I believe that discussion made it to that point without a single reference to Marner putting a puck over the glass actually... Which was a nice twist. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

Fair. I can't remember which guy it is, but there are a couple who get pretty fired up about it.

I'm more fired up about the fact that it shouldn't even be a penalty in the first place.

A top-40 really just shows how poopty and hard it is to be an NHL prospect.

I believe that discussion made it to that point without a single reference to Marner putting a puck over the glass actually... Which was a nice twist.

🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

Marner demonstrated in junior that he is an exceptional player. He still needs direction from the coaches IMO. I would think on the PP, a forward with a rocket of a shot might be more effective than Marner on the point. That said Marner has great potential, he's only 24 and won as much as he could with London

I need a Bishop Sycamore football jersey.

Fair. I can't remember which guy it is, but there are a couple who get pretty fired up about it.

I'm more fired up about the fact that it shouldn't even be a penalty in the first place.
- Monkeypunk

I have my criticisms of Marner just like anyone of us who have criticisms of a number of players on the team.

If a delay of game penalty is all we would have to complain about we would all be doing pretty good.

In other words... It's quite a ways down my list and you gotta pass a litany of credible things worthy of discussion to get there. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Fair. I can't remember which guy it is, but there are a couple who get pretty fired up about it.

I'm more fired up about the fact that it shouldn't even be a penalty in the first place.
- Monkeypunk

While I agree it shouldn't be a penalty. For me, the salary cap is the biggest load of baloney there is. No team suffers more than the Leafs because of the cap. And the reason for the cap? So poop teams like Arizona and their 28 fans can have hockey and get financial support from the NHL and wealthy teams when they file for Chapter 11

To be fair, he is continuing the conversation from the last thread, that even if he didn't would start up again anyway.

Everyone is understandably disappointed in the Leafs lack of progress. For the first time since the 1970s we have some _real_ drafted talent and a good young core. You couple that with the impatience of the base and throw in the mix that half of them feel that Matthews is leaving in a couple of years and there's frustration, anger and frail hope. It makes for poor behaviour at times.

The funny thing about it is that for the most part (ignoring those who come in to talk hockey like Drunken Canuck or Scabs or RJ) we all just want the Leafs to win.

It just seems that no one can agree on how!
- Monkeypunk

IMHO, there's just to much overthinking going on.

If AM, MM, and WN (all of them) make a jump and can figure out how to increase the "whatever you want to all it" in the playoffs AND if they get some 'tending then this team will do well in any match up.

Playoffs build hero's .....time to put up or shut up.

For those who play fantasy football I'm here to brag. Got Mccaffrey and elliott this year.

Marner demonstrated in junior that he is an exceptional player. He still needs direction from the coaches IMO. I would think on the PP, a forward with a rocket of a shot might be more effective than Marner on the point. That said Marner has great potential, he's only 24 and won as much as he could with London


- winsix

Yes, I followed his junior career closely and he was a stud. He's been every bit the part during his NHL regular seasons as well.

My biggest concern is regardless of how talented some players are, when the going gets tough they get pounded into submission and it flushes their entire game. NHL playoff hockey certainly isn't major junior afterall. Some guys just don't have it at that point.

Really hoping Marner isn't one of those guys but I'm running out of runway for him to sell me.

He only has himself to blame for hardballing his own way to a fat AAV, a lot of people like me would be happy to give him a lot more rope had he signed at a more reasonable number. Mitch created the high expectations for himself, and he's no dummy. He knows this.

Has the cause of death for Jimmy Hayes been determined?

For those who play fantasy football I'm here to brag. Got Mccaffrey and elliott this year.
- Aaron_85

In the same pool? How the (frank) did you pull that off?!

For those who play fantasy football I'm here to brag. Got Mccaffrey and elliott this year.
- Aaron_85

You expect Zeke to bounce back this year?

As a Cowboys fan, I sure hope so. A healthy Dak will go a long way too.... but the defense needs to be WAY better for them to stand a chance even in a very weak division.

Yes, I followed his junior career closely and he was a stud. He's been every bit the part during his NHL regular seasons as well.

My biggest concern is regardless of how talented some players are, when the going gets tough they get pounded into submission and it flushes their entire game. NHL playoff hockey certainly isn't major junior afterall. Some guys just don't have it at that point.

Really hoping Marner isn't one of those guys but I'm running out of runway for him to sell me.

He only has himself to blame for hardballing his own way to a fat AAV, a lot of people like me would be happy to give him a lot more rope had he signed at a more reasonable number. Mitch created the high expectations for himself, and he's no dummy. He knows this.
- joel878

I'm sure he's full of regrets.

Marner demonstrated in junior that he is an exceptional player. He still needs direction from the coaches IMO. I would think on the PP, a forward with a rocket of a shot might be more effective than Marner on the point. That said Marner has great potential, he's only 24 and won as much as he could with London


- winsix

He was just named to the first All Star team and finished fourth in scoring. He and Matthews playing poorly in the playoffs. That needs to be addressed. If it can’t be, he needs to be moved. A bunch of people here have decided he can’t and seem angry. I said seem.

I see two issues before getting to he’s a playoff flop.

1. Cutdown regular season ice time for him and Matthews. They were among league leaders as I recall. One theory about Kamph and other adds is to build a real shut down third line. Matthews’ took a lot of D zone starts and wracked up too many minutes which took a toll (along with bad wrist) by playoffs.

2. What works in regular season, etc. They were too predictable, too stubborn to change. Maybe splitting them up and changing the mode might work. Less pretty play in regular season but move to a playoff style. Too lazy to do up lines.

I'm sure he's full of regrets.





- Scabeh

Well, that's kind of my point.

He clearly wants to be better but also if it doesn't play out I'm sure a scrooge mcduck swim through the money pool seals the ol tear ducts up. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I'm sure he's full of regrets.





- Scabeh

At least I can blame my parents for my stunning good looks. It’s been a curse, Scabbie.

You expect Zeke to bounce back this year?

As a Cowboys fan, I sure hope so. A healthy Dak will go a long way too.... but the defense needs to be WAY better for them to stand a chance even in a very weak division.
- Scabeh

Habs and Cowboys

He was just named to the first All Star team and finished fourth in scoring. He and Matthews playing poorly in the playoffs. That needs to be addressed. If it can’t be, he needs to be moved. A bunch of people here have decided he can’t and seem angry. I said seem.

I see two issues before getting to he’s a playoff flop.

1. Cutdown regular season ice time for him and Matthews. They were among league leaders as I recall. One theory about Kamph and other adds is to build a real shut down third line. Matthews’ took a lot of D zone starts and wracked up too many minutes which took a toll (along with bad wrist) by playoffs.

2. What works in regular season, etc. They were too predictable, too stubborn to change. Maybe splitting them up and changing the mode might work. Less pretty play in regular season but move to a playoff style. Too lazy to do up lines.
- Canada Cup

Keefe went to the Babcock school of don't change anything it'll work eventually these playoffs. Can't do that again.

Which one of his linemates had the 40 goal season. 🤔

Chris Johnston December 2016 "You're not likely to see Matthews and Marner continue playing together. The #leafs believe each rookie can drive a line on his own."

It's 2021. They each make ridiculous money, let's see it. 🤷🏻‍♂️
- joel878

Do you think Bozak was the reason that line was better than Matthews' line? Did you see all the tap-ins JT had from going to the net on utterly ridiculous Marner passes?